The philosopher Shaj Mohan talks in the interview with Auwn Gurmani about hypophysics, a thinking that identifies Gandhi’s description of the “good value” of a thing with “natural state”. He notes that hypophysics is a species of racism. The idyllic a priori that Gandhi refers to corresponds to the experiences of privileged groups, the life of the highest castes. This idyll is maintained by colonial conditions. As an alternative, Shaj Mohan pleads for a “world democracy”, which we achieve through the obscure experience.